It seems like every week there's news about how one of the big tech companies is stealing our data or messing around with their employees. Why does this keep happening? Author and analyst Charlene Li thinks that tech companies believe their altruistic end goals justify the means. But researcher Alix Rübsaam argues that the problem is even deeper than that. In the course this philosophical exchange, they also compare and contrast Marvel villain Thanos with Theranos founder Elizabeth Holmes.